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124th and 128th Flotillas - Combined Ops - Attached HMT Derbyshire - Ops Info?
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Northern_Dominion:
Colleagues:
I am a bit of a long-term lurker, now a first time poster. I have always enjoyed reading everything on the RN Research Archive, and look forward to participating more fulsomely in the days, weeks, months ahead.
I am a former Canadian Naval Officer, currently part of Canada's foreign service, and -- perhaps most importantly for this readership -- a serious, long-term amateur historian of the Royal Canadian Navy, and its relationship with the RN over the decades.
In that respect, I am currently researching a Briton who who served in the RCNR during the SWW: Warrant Engineer John Stanley GORE, RCNR.
Although formally enrolled into the Canadian Naval Service, Gore spend two years seconded to the RN (as the first two images below illustrate), serving with HMS Quebec (for Northney) which was, (as I understand), the accounting ship for the RN’s Combined Operations Forces. The final image below (all from Gore's RCNR service file) indicates that while serving with Combined Ops he earned the Atlantic, Africa, and Italy Stars.
Here's my conundrum: The third image also indicates he serve in "Combined Operations: 124 and 128 Flotilla", (which I assume where part of RN’s Combined Ops Forces). I have spent a fair amount of time, now, trying to find some detailed information on these 2 flotillas, but have not been able to come up with anything which seems appropriate.
During the period in question HMT Derbyshire (referenced in Gore's files) was an LCI (Large), and therefore I assume would have been the "mothership" of the 124th and 128th (Combined Operations) Flotilla.
I guess my mild uneasiness stems from the fact that I am surprised that no public record seems to exist of these flotilla; (indeed, I have not been able to find any public mention at all!) I am hoping to be able, eventually, to inch my way towards answers to questions such as: what was the make up of each flotilla?... how many craft in each?... were they always attached to the Derbyshire, a little more details about their actual landing operations, etc.
Hence, I am turning to the RN Research Forum to ask: can any one point point me in the right direction to find some substantive information on the operational history of these two flotillas? ... 124 and 128 Flotilla, Combined Operations.
Grateful for any assistance.
Cheers,
Glen,
In Our Northern Dominion
Danny L:
Hi,
Below is some information on the Flotillas. This came from documents that I have seen. Although there are bits and pieces online about Derbyshire there does not seem to be anything about the LC she carried.
Although 124th Flotilla was formed in 1942 they were not allocated any LCA until April 1943.
Regards
Danny
Flotilla Staff. - 1942
124th Flotilla
Lieutenant J. Hawkes, RNVR.
Sub-Lieut. W.M. Harding, RNVR.
Sub-Lieut. T.E. Kelly.
Sub-Lieut. J.A.C. Legate, RCNVR.
Act. Sub-Lieut. J.R. Metcalfe, RNVR.
Wt. Engineer S. Gore, RCNR.
20/4/43 - LCA in Flotilla
Home Waters, Force “V”.
124th Flotilla. - Rosneath.
LCA 285, 291, 347, 408, 477, 555
127th Flotilla. - Rosneath
LCA 376, 384, 400, 439. 459.
128th Flotilla - Rosneath
No LCA allocated to Flotilla yet.
1/6/43
Home Waters, Force “V”.
124th Flotilla - Embarked on M.V. Derbyshire.
LCA 285, 291, 343, 347, 408, 477, 555, 569, 606, 608,
127th Flotilla - Embarked on M.V. Derbyshire.
LCA 264, 376, 384, 400, 439, 459, 506, 605, 624, 694.
LCS(M)(3) 36
128th Flotilla - Embarked on M.V. Circassia
LCA 123, 124, 292, 361, 367, 394, 497, 511, 516, 541, 752, 758.
LCS(M)(3) 59.
29/6/43
Foreign Station, Force “V”.
124th Flotilla - Embarked on M.V. Derbyshire.
LCA 285, 291, 343, 347, 408, 477, 555, 569, 606.
127th Flotilla - Embarked on M.V. Derbyshire.
LCA 371, 376, 384, 400, 459, 498, 506, 605, 610, 624, 694.
LCS(M)(3) 36
128th Flotilla - Embarked on M.V. Circassia
LCA 292, 361, 394, 497, 511, 516, 607, 680, 697, 701, 752, 755, 758.
LCS(M)(3) 59.
Derbyshire
Personnel capacity given as 2520/2566
Carried 20 LCA + 1 LCE or LCS(M) on deck
Op Husky - Sicily 10th July 1943
Left the Clyde 28th June in Assault convoy KMF18 arrived Bark West beachhead 10th July.
Bark West - Pachino
LSI(L) Derbyshire(R) - “R” is Sector Roger
40 RM Commando land in LCA from 127th Flotilla.
Other troops carried might have been Canadian.
Op Shingle - Anzio 22 January 1944
LSI(L) Derbyshire left Naples 21st January in Assault Group “D”, arrived “Peter Sector” Beachhead 22nd January.
Troops landed - 1st Battalion Scots Guards and 1st Battalion Loyal Regiment (North Lancashire
Third Flight 6 LCA from Derbyshire - Beach at H + 30 - 2 Coys Scots Guards
Forth Flight - 7 LCA from Derbyshire - Beach at H + 45 - 2 Coys Scots Gds & Bn HQ
Fifth Flight - 7 LCA from Derbyshire - Beach at H + 60 - 2 Coys.
Part of HQ 2 Special Service Brigade, 9 and 43 RM Commandos embarked on Derbyshire were also landed by LCA.
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